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At most the ocean temps were flat after 2003. There was a bunch a cooling after 2003, but it was decided there was an artifact that reduced the cooling. Not confirmed.
So temps were slightly cooling or flat. Definitely not warming.
aaron
I agree that they are not warming anymore, but doomsayers would have everyone think otherwise. Many governments and institutes are exaggerating global warming to encourage people to cut down on waste and become more energy efficient, a form of white lie imo. The commercial sectors are feeding off this to create "buzz" products, like "green" this and "eco friendly" that. Studies also show that the Earth is long over due for an Ice age, which would also support the fact that oceans aren't warming anymore and makes humans less responsible for global warming (if at all responsible).
Prof. Shaviv
Is it possible that there is or should be a link between between GCR and SST's.
What I mean is that more GCR should create more clouds which in turn should decrease SST's by having the oceans receive less direct sun light. And in turn less GCR's should reduce cloud cover and increase the direct sunlight on the oceans leading to increase SST's and global sea temperature.
Is there a way to verify a link between them. I believe that if this can be verified, it would means that oceans have more effect on the athmosphere than the atmosphere on the ocean.
Thanks
Please don't let the disbelievers get you down and keep up the good work. I believe in natural causes and the work you and others are doing is helping to explain that. There are a lot of natural interactions that explain past climate so I have a hard time believing that only one small item can explain current and possible future climate change. CO2 may have a small affect but I think you may be getting closer to some of the answers. Only time and further observations will answer the big question. Closed minds only distort the truth.
I recall reading that earth's magnetic field has been weaking over the last several hundred years, and the magnetic poles may switch in the next few millennia. Would a changing magnetic field on earth have any effect on climate due to changes in cloud formation from cosmic rays? - A. McIntire
Because the primary cosmic ray energy required to reach the troposphere is relatively high (typically greater than 10 to 20 GeV), and since the effect of Earth's magnetic field is simply a cutoff (between 0 to 13 GeV, depending on the magnetic latitude), the effect of the terrestrial field is very small. I estimated that entirely switching off the terrestrial field would correspond to a temperature decrease of about 1°C. So the slow decrease over the past several centuries is an order of magnitude smaller.
For more details, see the appendix of this paper.
Shaviv:
I looked at the appendix of the paper you pointed to in the above post. From Figure 8 it appears the the relative change of cosmic ray induced ions I is more sensitive to the Earth's magnetic field (at least the overall magnetic dipole moment) than it is to the solar modulation parameter. Am I reading that right?
Also, I see that you went from a yield function of Y(E,h) to one of Y(E, theta) (theta being the latitude). Is this done in order to take into some account a different angle of incidence of the cosmic rays into the atmosphere? I thought they came at essentially all angles, so I wouldn't expect such a dependence.
By the way, I assume the C = 1.24×10^6cm^(−2)s^(−1)MeV^(−1) was intended to be the C_p in equation 26, above that. Also, is the 14.8 GV that multiplies the RHS of equation 27 supposed to be 14.8 GeV, or some other energy units? (14.8 GeV is somewhat larger than your 13 GeV stated in the above post. It gets closer to 50% of the 10-20 GeV energy band you state is important for low altitude cloud cover.)
What I'm trying to get a grip on is whether there is expected to be much of a latitude dependence in the low altitude cloud cover (LACC) effect. From the energy band and cutoff you gave in the post, I would expect there to be only minimal change (depending on the energy dependence of the yield and/or the cosmic ray flux), but the great magnetic dipole dependence causes me to wonder (of course I recognize that one is a more local effect while the other extends far out into Earth's surrounding space).
What brought this to the fore is the "Testing the proposed causal link between cosmic rays and cloud cover" paper by T Sloan and A W Wolfendale (of course I see from your references that you are already familiar with their similar earlier work). However, they have now added a temporal issue with so called ground level events (GLE) and Forbush decreases. With these temporal cases, especially since they are being determined via neutron and muon detectors (that only agree on one of three GLEs they looked at) I have to question wether such cosmic ray flux fluctuations are correlated across the entire energy regime, or not.
(Interestingly, the April 3rd, 2008, PhysicsWorld [IOP] post refers to Slaon and Wolfendale as two particle physicists. I would expect that particle physicist might know about how only higher energy cosmic rays would deposit their energy in the lower atmosphere, rather than making such a global claim about how cosmic rays should be modulated less at the geomagnetic equator simply based on the high flux of low energy cosmic rays and the cutoff energy from the geomagnetic field.)
Just wondering.
David
To get rid of the effect in a local area by insulating the area against magnetic fields. I assume you mean eliminating the effect globally, though. Current theory states that the magnetic field is generated by the movement of magnetic iron and nickel at a different rate than surrounding layers. Thus, planets which have a solid core have no magnetism, because the entire solid planet rotates together. In order to get rid of the magnetic field, you would have to either cool the outer core to solidity, or somehow regulate it's rotation such that it was equivalent to the rest of the planet.
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